Episode 24

David French: Why America Could Break Up (The Real Threat of Secession)


January 16th, 2021

41 mins 38 secs

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About this Episode

Time Columnist and Dispatch Senior Editor David French joins the show to discuss his new book: Divided We Fall, which outlines how polarization and division could lead America to split up.

We break down the theory behind this hypothesis and David's hypothetical scenarios: "Calexit" and "Texit," where California and Texas, respectively, exit the Union after foreseeable but tragic circumstances unfold. David provocatively argues that this threat is not as far off as you think.

0:52 The Law of Group Polarization, Explained
3:00 Warnings From Pre-Civil-War America to Today
7:00 The Iraq War, Grievance, and Civil Strife
10:17 After Capitol Attack, Break Up More Likely Than Ever
13:40 Scenario: How California Secession Would Play Out
18:45 Why SHOULDN'T Red and Blue America Split Up?
26:00 Pluralism and Tolerance as a Solution, Explained
29:10 Federalism and States' Rights
35:00 Can the Fight Over Abortion & Guns be Overcome?

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